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With Julica Hermann:

Where does perfectionism come from, why does it suck so much, and how can we heal from it? How is perfectionism related to shame, vulnerability, and control? Kyeli, in a courageous example of vulnerability, talks about her punctuation perfectionism and her dictation difficulties: feeling ashamed of being disabled and not wanting anyone to know how bad it really is.

Highlights:

• Pace’s perfectionism origin story
• perfectionism ends when it’s (1) too much, or (2) too empty
• original sin
• the body compass, and how to tell whether you’re getting guidance from your wise self or your tantrum-throwing inner two-year-old
• we’re all canoes on the ocean

Shout-outs:

• Jen Hofmann
• Brene Brown, who is not locked in our creepy stairway to nowhere
• Martha Beck on the body compass
• Jen Louden on shadow comfort

Our guest Julica Hermann can be found at julicahermann.com.

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